are vivariums acceptable now ? - Page 2

NATURALIS · 14-05-2013, 03:31 PM

I don't see how viv's are big enough tbh , for one there way to small tortoise's are roaming animals and need plenty of space to exercise properly .
I use 10 1/2 ft x 4ft tables and 16ft greenhouse's with plenty of outdoor space .

geordie mark · 14-05-2013, 04:43 PM

People don't have enough space for that I know we don't here the table I'm just finishing off now isn't as big as I would like buy it will ride him over its got more length slightly less width but it will be much more open

when me and the fiancée move out well have much more space to have bigger tables

yuna1971 · 14-05-2013, 06:18 PM

Lol...10.5ft Brian!!!!

Bit cramped then..

xx

Fred123 · 14-05-2013, 06:38 PM

I agree, it depends who you ask. I would never use a viv for a med species, but may do so for a tropical tortoise. Our tables and sheds are far bigger than any viv could ever be and in my opinion they are far too small to house a tortoise. When the depth is only a matter of a few inch I dont think it is a suitable environment for my tortoises, thats my choice but I know others dont agree.

FLINTUS · 14-05-2013, 06:39 PM

In the US it's becoming a common thing, although called closed chambers. As well as for forest/forest edge torts, they use it for Leopards, Sulcatas and sometimes Hermanni and Graecas

Suze65 · 14-05-2013, 06:46 PM

Just coz they use them in America doesn't mean we have to here, closed chambers just about sums it up!

FLINTUS · 14-05-2013, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mediterraneansuze

Just coz they use them in America doesn't mean we have to here, closed chambers just about sums it up!

Not necessarily agreeing with it just something to think about.

Suze65 · 14-05-2013, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by FLINTUS

Not necessarily agreeing with it just something to think about.

Ok absolutely ,

ibizathetort · 15-05-2013, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by stells

I don't have an issue with a WELL SET UP viv... I can see the benefit for tropical species... and know plenty that have used them with success with meds. I don't agree with just bunging a lamp and some soil in one and hey presto though... they should be well thought out. I also don't like the lack of space provided by them I don't see how they have the height for breeding groups so a good nest can be dug. I have considered them in the past for my stars... but decided not to cos if it ain't broke don't fix it. Mine are all on tables... the largest table I have being 7ft by 4ft. I do think if you haven't got the space... don't keep the animals... so shoot me.

Geordie mark... you will find that this forum now allows all opinions to be heard... some get offended by this... and don't like change... but it's the way its going to be from now on... this forum is not a dictatorship.

I agree with that, if you don't have the space then don't keep the animals. Sounds harsh but its fairer on the animal in the long run

Sheli88 · 15-05-2013, 01:01 PM

[QUOTE=cherylahutch;604981] if I put them in tables they would be really cold in the winter.QUOTE]

I hibernate in winter so that isn't a problem...

14-05-2013, 03:31 PM	#11
NATURALIS Senior Member Adult Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: cheshire Posts: 3,472	I don't see how viv's are big enough tbh , for one there way to small tortoise's are roaming animals and need plenty of space to exercise properly . I use 10 1/2 ft x 4ft tables and 16ft greenhouse's with plenty of outdoor space . __________________ Home bred tortoise's available all year round, Hermanns , spur-thighed ( ibera ) pm for details

14-05-2013, 04:43 PM	#12
geordie mark Member Juvenile Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: south shields, NE, England Posts: 920	People don't have enough space for that I know we don't here the table I'm just finishing off now isn't as big as I would like buy it will ride him over its got more length slightly less width but it will be much more open when me and the fiancée move out well have much more space to have bigger tables __________________ Mark. T.H.Hercegvenensis 1.0.0 S.P. Babcocki 0.1.0 Chelonoidis Carbonaria 0.1.0 (My Parents) West Highland White Terrier 1.0.0 Scottish Terrier 1.0.0

14-05-2013, 06:18 PM	#13
yuna1971 Senior Member Adult Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Bristol Posts: 7,157	Lol...10.5ft Brian!!!! Bit cramped then.. xx __________________ Rach Lily's Movie. http://www.shelledwarriors.co.uk/for...ad.php?t=68025

14-05-2013, 06:39 PM	#15
FLINTUS Member Juvenile Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 960	In the US it's becoming a common thing, although called closed chambers. As well as for forest/forest edge torts, they use it for Leopards, Sulcatas and sometimes Hermanni and Graecas __________________ 2.2 Red Foots 1.0 Golden Retriever 1.1 Lop-eared rabbits 1.2 Serrated/Forest Hingebacks Fish Snails-Achatina Fulica 'Jadatzi', Limicolaria Flammea, Limicolaria Numidica, Archachatina marginata suturalis, Achatina Tincta Jadatzi GALS for sale: http://www.shelledwarriors.co.uk/for...799#post610799

14-05-2013, 06:46 PM	#16
Suze65 Senior Member Adult Join Date: May 2012 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 6,769	Just coz they use them in America doesn't mean we have to here, closed chambers just about sums it up! __________________ Suze. 3 THB, Sammy, Jemima, & Phoebe 7 Marginated, Tabitha, Ptolome, Tatiana, Noah,Lottey, Lulu & Poppy 1 TGG (Emma) RIP Feb 2012

14-05-2013, 06:38 PM	#14
Fred123 Member Hatched Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 407	I agree, it depends who you ask. I would never use a viv for a med species, but may do so for a tropical tortoise. Our tables and sheds are far bigger than any viv could ever be and in my opinion they are far too small to house a tortoise. When the depth is only a matter of a few inch I dont think it is a suitable environment for my tortoises, thats my choice but I know others dont agree.

15-05-2013, 01:01 PM	#20
Sheli88 Member Egg Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 75	[QUOTE=cherylahutch;604981] if I put them in tables they would be really cold in the winter.QUOTE] I hibernate in winter so that isn't a problem... Last edited by Sheli88; 15-05-2013 at 02:52 PM.

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