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I hope I can get answers from the vet. I can't believe how quickly she went downhill today. She was so young, only 2
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i've known ones pass away and the owner thinks crikey what they hell have I done, and the vet has topsied and found genetic disorders, (kidney is a big one) or chronic birth defects so hidden away you just wouldn't know under that shell. Please don't feel you've failed her because none of your posts have ever indicated that and you've always been very hands on with her. Stress is a big factor for poorly tortoises too and visits to vets can be dreadful for them but you are damned if you do and damned if you don't sometimes ,so again don't feel bad you did all you could. CB
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Tatts, the vet would have told you if she was dehydrated - even the most basic of non reptile vets would know - so don't think its that. Maybe they will be able to tell you. I suspect is physiological. stay strong with it, CB
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I am sorry to say if the blockage was caused by solid urates then it was most definitely caused by dehydration. If you read the article you will see that this can happen almost overnight and may have started many months before the problem first appeared obvious to you. Spurthighed hatchlings to require a good soak and a humid scrape when possible because it is in their nature to seek out the heatlamp during the day. The adults can survive in very hot conditions I have kept these alongside of Hermanns tortoises for many years and on the hottest part of the day they will be outside almost to hot to touch when the hermanns have disappered in their hides. I could give you so many points in how they differ. At one point because of space I attempted to raise hhermanns and spurthighed hatchlings together even within a few months it was obvious why it was a bad idea. I am so sorry this has happened but please know it was not your fault these can be very difficult until they reach about 4" when they can be outside in the garden or in hibernation and never enter the house again.I must just say if this was a North African graeca graeca they are not the same as Hermanns tortoises to keep under any type of condition and most especially not when indoors.
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No problem CB I tend to give my opinions based on my own experiences and I certainly am not familiar with this ladies previous posts so will bow out of this discussion
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Tatty, I'm so sorry to hear about Mabel. RIP little one. My thoughts are with you. x
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I'm so sorry, but as has been said don't blame your self. It is still very difficult, even for specialist vets to diagnose tortoises, because they live in a box ( the shell ) and as CB said , I have also seen many people come on here and say, their tortoise seemed fine one day, ill the next and dead the next. Tortoise are incredibly good at hiding their illness until they are too far gone to help. And as Terry said, this may have started months before. When they are this small they can still dehydrate over night, and in captivity they do bask more than they would in the wild and so are more likely to dehydrate. If she had a bladder stone, it could have been growing for months, and when they are this small , there isn't much you can do about it. So you really mustn't blame you're self. So sorry 😔
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