yes I learnt I had been referring to plantain as planktan for two years which is apparently from bob someone who has square pants or the like who I never watch so not sure where I picked up the reference! Very interesting conversations with Gordon. The books say preserving tortoises, species and location through conservation and breeding is paramount so good luck. I will also add that Patti, or Patti two shoes is a terrific name for a tortoise too, CB
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