Hopefully I have done this right - and you can see apic of my little tort, unfortunately the stupid shop told me it was a SHE and so her name is LILY. But...since then, I have found that it is a HE. So... now that that is out of the way - can anyone confirm what species Lily is. I know its a spur as Lily has the spurs on the back legs at the top - so is this testudo gracea or testudo ibera..so sorry if i sound dumb and yes,....why didnt i ask earlier. I have always been led to beleive its a testudo gracea, med spur thigh. But some of the pics on this thread do not look like Lily. (gushes..with pride) check out her (sorry his) shiny shell, nothing I have done or put on it, he has always had this and have been told by some people that they have never seen such a shiny shell!! I also think the colours are beautiful, clean and sharp. any answers to breed would be so grateful.