yes its an interesting debate isn't it because it can be scarey stories to new tortoise keepers that their tortoise will blow up with rotting vegetation caught inside. I knew a tortoise that hibernated on top of a wardrobe for years in a normal heated house to no ill effects, and others back in the day in London were just left in the garden. Appreciate husbandry and knowledge is far more advanced but I agree with the baths, I have never ever bathed prior to hibernation, only for hydration and that's particularly rare when they are outdoors as you only have to look at a humidity guage and its towards 100 % in autumn time. There must be a pre cursor that if you do everything right and the tortoise still doesn't make it its down to the Tortoise make up and health and not necessarily the process.
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