thanks for that ,missed that !!!!

There is a very unscrupulous dealer in T.h.hermanni that is based in Scotland. :(

Danny

do you mean a dealer/importer as opposed to a breeder Dan?

The unscrupulous part is the fact that he says he's a breeder, but very definately isn't.

Danny

:lol::lol::lol: Nailed it.

I only know of one other person that keeps THH in scotland and hes in Ailth ?

osric jonathan has them too (not for sale or anything like)

yes i know jonathan keeps them but i think the op was looking for breeders of THH .

there is a breeder on the tortoise protection agency website called Anne, she lives in Cheshire, I got my THH off her, she travelled up to liverpool with them for me so I could get the boat back!

Hi folks. It is correct that true Hermanni Hermanni tortoises that have been captive bred in the UK are rarely offered for sale. In some cases people have found after purchase that the animal is not hermanni hermanni or not a 'true' one.

Yes the hermanni hermanni is a smaller tortoise than the Boetgeri. About two thirds of the size of the Boetgeri perhaps. But I don't think the size is likely to be a factor for several years if our poster is starting with a yearling tortoise.

So unless you are really stuck on the hermanni hermanni subspecies then it might be a lot easier to go for a Boetgeri because these are more readily available and you have a much better chance of finding a breeder local to you. These are also lovely tortoises and in most respects not very much different at all from the hermanni hermanni.

I started out with hermanni hermanni really through chance and when I wanted more tortoises I felt for me it was best to stick to one type. It was very difficult to find any and whne I did it was after a long period of looking and asking. In the end I went to France to get them.

I might be mistaken but I think that the Norfolk breeder mentioned at the top is working with Boetgerri not Hermanni hermanni.