Tracy can you post pictures of your tortoise? It can be quite tricky to tell the different subspecies apart and there are not that many of the THH around. Chris or Danny will be able to tell you for definite.

I don't think that the THH and THB should be kept together and most people on this forum probably agree with that, but not everyone. The THH and THB must not be allowed to breed.

hiya, thanks for all the info.,it made me go and have a look at my 4. it looks like i have 3thb & 1 what i think is thh. could you please tell me why thay souldnt live to-gether or breed,as harry my 5year old thb is always trying to mate sally who is also 5 and i think is a thh? thanks

Hi, if a THH and THB breed then the offspring are hybrids. My belief is that we should preserve the differences between the two subspecies, whereas keeping them together and letting them breed has the opposite effect. It is also suggested that the fertility of hybrids is less.

Not everyone agrees. I like the smaller and more brightly coloured THH and think that their special charateristics should be kept both in captivity and in the wild.

Would be great to see photos of your tortoises! You would know for sure if Sally is a THH or not if you posted some photos of her including underside. There are not all that many THH in the UK.

i will post some pics when my son shows me how to do it. George my tort that has just pasted away was 100% thh and the nices, cutes little tort that i have ever seen, god bless him. oh where do i post the pics??

Sorry to hear that George has passed away.

Best place to post would be the Identification / Sexing board or the pictures one maybe.

Can you let me know if you have a THH breeder in your area? Not actually looking for more right now, but you never know!

the ues to be, only iam not sure if is still breeding them but i will do my best to find out for you. do you only have THH ? if so how many & how old are thay ?

I refreshed this thread with NEW DIAGRAMS, this time I included T. h. hercegovinensis.

Can the peeps in the know take a look at these two sets of pics and tell me what they think are the sub species once and for all, As I am in two minds ree these two.

Many thanks

Dawn

These are all Colin

http://i545.photobucket.com/albums/h...ada/Colin1.jpg
http://i545.photobucket.com/albums/h...ada/Colin2.jpg
http://i545.photobucket.com/albums/h...ada/Colin3.jpg

And here is Matilda

http://i545.photobucket.com/albums/h...a/Matilda1.jpg
http://i545.photobucket.com/albums/h...a/Matilda2.jpg
http://i545.photobucket.com/albums/h...a/Matilda3.jpg

Dawn it will be better if u post those pics in the id/sexing part, u will get more response there :)