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egyptiandan64 29-08-2008 11:16 PM

What A Pyramided Tortoises Shell Looks Like Vs. A Nonpyramided Tortoises Shell
 
These are 2 California Desert tortoises, but pyramiding is the same for every tortoise.
The Pyramided Tortoise First.
Showing how thick and porus the bone is on the pyramided tortoise
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/a...dan64/bcbd.jpg
The pyramided vertebral scutes and whats underneath, notice that the sutures between the bones are not very tight
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/a...dan64/727e.jpg
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/a...dan64/f452.jpg
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/a...dan64/8873.jpg
The Nonpyramided Tortoise
Showing how tight and thin the bone is on a well grown tortoise
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/a...dan64/850c.jpg
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/a...dan64/7076.jpg
Notice how tight the sutures are on a well grown tortoise
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/a...dan64/56e5.jpg
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/a...dan64/5b95.jpg

Photos courtesy of the WCT yahoo group

Danny

Paulg1 30-08-2008 02:23 AM

Everything I've read about pyramiding is that it isn't physically bad for the tortoise. I think the proof is there that in fact it is bad for them.

angels1531 30-08-2008 09:56 AM

WOW, that is incredible! Thanks for sharing, Im am learning so much about these fascinating creatures every day. Thanks for sharing :)

linda 30-08-2008 02:58 PM

excellent pics danny

thanks for posting these

Dandelion 30-08-2008 03:15 PM

Thank you for these! Very interesting! :)

Dan, would you say that pyramiding is caused by low-quality diet or for other reasons? :) I have always wanted to know this...

Paulg1 30-08-2008 03:43 PM

I found an interesting article about pyramiding on this site.http://www.ivorytortoise.com/informa...tortoises.html. According to this diet has little to do with it. Humidity of all things. Check it out.

Dandelion 30-08-2008 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paulg1 (Post 213487)
I found an interesting article about pyramiding on this site.http://www.ivorytortoise.com/informa...tortoises.html. According to this diet has little to do with it. Humidity of all things. Check it out.

Thank you! :) I will read it now.

I have read many things about Pyramiding but there are too many different opinions, I am not sure what to believe!

Pretty Penguin 30-08-2008 06:24 PM

That is absolutely fascinating. Thank you so much for posting this.

Anna.

egyptiandan64 30-08-2008 09:35 PM

I'm not getting how humidity can prevent or cause pyramiding. Those studies always perplexed me.
If you look at the pictures it's the bones that pyramid, not the scutes. Humidity only helps the scute material from sticking together at the edges and causing lopsided growth of the scutes, but not affecting the bone underneath.
Bones need 4 things to grow, calcium, phosphorus, vitamin D3 and enough calories to untilize the first 3. From what I've always seen it's a deficiency or lack of 1, 2, 3 or all 4 that causes pyramiding.

Glad I could help by posting these pictures :grin:

Danny

Dreamer 22-05-2009 11:28 PM

I never got how humidity could be linked but a few breeders have said how much smoother their hatchlings shell had grown when given the option of a humid hide, so thats what mine are getting. Cant hurt after all...


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