did you get my last message?
Toni

Sorry, I only just seen your reply, posts get moved onto the next page so quickly i missed it
I really think my tort is older than her papers. I assume they are not like trees and you can read thier rings. lol
where in Leicester are you from?

I see you love this site as much as me, I just wish I had found it before I purchased a very expensive viv.
Hubby making me a table top now