ID PLEASE

[helen1]

Hello-my friend has no comp. so asked if I could post two torts for sex/species subspecies-thanks in advance
http://upload2.postimage.org/520191/100_0562.jpg (http://upload2.postimage.org/520191/photo_hosting.html)

http://upload2.postimage.org/520215/100_0556.jpg (http://upload2.postimage.org/520215/photo_hosting.html)

http://upload2.postimage.org/520232/100_0558.jpg (http://upload2.postimage.org/520232/photo_hosting.html)

He is rehoming them

[josie790]

My definatly non expert opinion is they are both male russian horsfield torts. Im sure some one will be along soon to confirm what they are.

Jo

[Becks]

not 100% on the 1st 1 so will leave to others but second one is a female :D

[helen1]

Are you sure they are russians? I am personally useless unless I have the tort in my hand-photos are bad for my old eyes. He was told they were a spur and hermanns!

[Becks]

they are 100% horsfield tortoises :D :D

[Tamie Milne]

Without a doubt they are Horsfields and I would hazzard a guess at both female. Perhaps Sue will be along in a bit to confirm sex of them.

Tamie

[helen1]

Hmm !! :o :? have just called him and told him and he called the owner who said the vet said the one with spurs lighter one, was a spur thigh-but this is the vet that recommended that at 10yrs old they both be kept in a viv and could never go outside! grrrrrrrrrrrr
I defer to your answers, of course as I have no experience of horsfields at all!! Thanks all of you

[Becks]

they are definatly horsfields i keep a small group myself :D i also have a very light colored male in my group and a very dark male (the males dont live together) :wink: with number 1 i was swining more to a female with a larger tail i have a female like this :D but wasnt 100% so it does look like two females :D but as Tamie says some 1 like Sue will confirm this :wink: they are nice looking horsfields tho :D
luv Becks xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[helen1]

how can they look so well/smooth when been in a very samll viv for 10yrs? Poor poor little loves. They are so beaky too, if I had horsfields I would take them myself but I have enough enclosures to qualify as a zoo as it is!!!!!! Thanks for you help everyone, again.

[Becks]

10 yrs wow :shock: there not bad at all :D seen a hell of alot worse ..
but its never what you can see you need to worry about its what you cant :cry:
only happy to help luv Becks xxxxxxxx

[SCiARA]

maybe they where fed weeds and not often?

[helen1]

I agree re the hidden problems, unsure of diet etc that they have had previously.

[helen1]

Just out of interest what are the little spur things on either side of the tail on the bottom one?

[sarah]

Yep horsfields for sure they come in all different shades. The yellow one is lovely. I would say both females.

[sandy]

They are so obviously horsfields (russian) tortoises, I would suggest your friend changes his/
her vet if they ever need treatment<g>. If he/she cant identify tort speices then he/she wont
be any good treating them.

[helen1]

No no, he hasnt got them, he was thinking of taking them on, all I know is that they are in NW, he wont take them on now as they are not what he wants! He just wanted someone to look at pics as he has no comp/internet at moment

[imported_Lowe]

Yup, Horsfields, top one male, bottom female from what I can see on those shots, but would need a proper look to be sure. :)

[egyptiandan64]

They are both female Russians. :D They don't look bad at all.

Danny

[helen1]

Thanks all again! No good with names have forgotten them as soon as I have seen them! I had a tortoise once called cleopatra and most times I called her juliet!(antony and cleopatra and romeo and juliet) but the male I called anthony everytime.