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[carl20]

i know these pics are crap quality but can anyone give me an id please its kerris cousins tortoise.

http://upload4.postimage.org/848652/13_08_06_1838.jpg (http://upload4.postimage.org/848652/photo_hosting.html)
http://upload4.postimage.org/848653/13_08_06_1839.jpg (http://upload4.postimage.org/848653/photo_hosting.html)
http://upload4.postimage.org/848654/13_08_06_1840.jpg (http://upload4.postimage.org/848654/photo_hosting.html)
http://upload4.postimage.org/848657/13_08_06_1841.jpg (http://upload4.postimage.org/848657/photo_hosting.html)

[pmullen]

im almost posotive thats it a hermanns, but the pics are a little blury, i cant see spurs on
tail or thighs, ill look again, how old is it?

[pmullen]

does it have any spurrs?
the first pic looks like a hermanns

[carl20]

thanks for the reply, i thought it was a hermanns, i am not woth the tortoise now but by the pics it looks like spurs on the legs, any idea abput h.h or h.b by the underside of the shell,

it is my girlfriends cousins, it was given her by the rspca about 6 years ago, she thinks it is about 10, he was about 9 inches long, i was only with it for 2 mins

[pmullen]

i would ask hermannichris!

it a lovely tortoise anyway!

[Henry-flash]

From what I could see form the pics it looks like it has thigh spurs and no tail spurs so my first thought would be spur thighed, but I cant see very well with the pics.

[carl20]

thanks guys, the pics are awful, its my camera phone. im ot good with id's othrise i would have thought to check for spurs on the thighs and tail.

[Henry-flash]

I'm no good at ids either lol. Someoen more experienced will probably be able to tell from the pics.

[pmullen]

i dont think there are spurs on the thigs, its hard to tell but i think they are just scales?

[carl20]

lol i wish i had longer to take better pics but i was rushing. the owner thought she was a horsefield i think but im sure it is not.
All i was sure is that she is a she

[Henry-flash]

Yes its definately a she and is also not a horsfield.

[Dazza]

I think hermans by the two black stripes down each side of the plastron !

Darren

[Henry-flash]

Yeah thats another good point. After studying the tail pictures for longer I'm also thinking it does have a tail spur. Sorry for disagreeing paul :oops:

[piglet]

HI its an adult female hermans (testudo boettgeri) theres no mistaking it

[carl20]

thanks darren. stupid question but can you guess an age at 9/10 inches long, pretty smooth shell, they think its about 10-12 but i thought possibly older.

[pmullen]

i think it would be a fairly old tortoise!

[egyptiandan64]

Definately over 20 years old Carl, probably in the 30 to 40 age catergory :D .

Dan

[carl20]

thats wicked, i dont think she realises how old it is, Thanks for all the info guys, kerri was really excited to see another tortoise, other than jill this is the only person we have met with a tortoise.

[Henry-flash]

Sorry to go off topic, but where is Kerri havent seen her on in a while. Hope shes well :D

[carl20]

yeah shes fine, ill tell her u asked. she just didnt bother to re register, but if she ever wants to ask any questions she just gets me to post em.

[carl20]

sorry guys i forgot to mention since kerris cousin has had the tort it hasnt been hybrinated and they dont know its history as it was given them from the rspca. so it may not be so old if u know what i mean.

[wizzasmum]

It's a testudo hb and not a young tort ;)

[carl20]

i went too leeds this past weekend and visited this tortoise again and gave it a very long very warm bath, i just wanted to take it home with me, i want to bring it home and feed it weeds and bathe it regularly.

http://upload4.postimage.org/985248/emmastortinthebath.jpg (http://upload4.postimage.org/985248/photo_hosting.html)
http://upload4.postimage.org/985251/emmastortinbath2.jpg (http://upload4.postimage.org/985251/photo_hosting.html)

[tortoise_dude]

Female hermanni boetgerri, you can tell its older- as when they get old the black on the shell draws more towards the edges of the scutes- and has less black on it.
Shes lovely!!!

[carl20]

tell me about it, i fell in love with her.
She gets to live in the garden when weather is nice so in the summer she has a good life but when the weather is bad (more often than not here) she lives indoors with no uv source/ no heat source/ iceberg lettuce and rare baths.